Ep21: Being a Little Bit Naughty

with guest Steph Edusei

In this episode of the Good Girl Deprogramming podcast, Michelle is joined by the incredible Steph Edusei, Chief Executive of St Oswald’s Hospice and a powerhouse leader dedicated to challenging norms. From her leadership roles in healthcare, business, and the arts to her work amplifying Black voices through Black All Year, Steph is a force for change.

Together, they explore the pressures of Good Girl conditioning, the cost of people-pleasing, and the pivotal moments that led Steph to embrace a bolder, more authentic path.

She shares how being "a little bit naughty" transformed her approach to leadership, why traditional development programmes often fail women, and why it’s the workplace culture, not women, that needs to change.

Listen in for inspiration, hard truths, and Steph’s challenge to every listener: What’s your little bit of naughty?